k20a into my EF civic?

johnboy9 · Post by **johnboy9** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:30 pm

alryt guys, toyin with the idea of doppin a
k20a into my wee ef civic!

is there much work involved, dont know much
about the k20a itelf so was hopin yous could give me
some pointers and send me in the right direction!

dilema!

also been offered a b18 and everything included
to do the conversion so im kinda stuck atm as wat to do?

opinions and advice plz!

ive been told that the k20a is a nightmare to drop in
and that the b18a is easier and alot more reliable, and bulletproof
any back this up?

im new to honda as well btw as i came from the vauxhall
family lol so plz shed as much light as you can

John from N.I if any of you guys in ireland wanna give me a hand wen
i get sorted?

cheers

WELLZ · Post by **WELLZ** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:10 pm

Heres my bit of info i can offer.

Due to you having a GL, you will first need to swap to FI, which will involve swapping the tank and fuel lines etc, no matter if you choose B series or K series!

B18 swap is much easier to do. Its been done loads of times before, and wont need much work or aftermarket parts to get it in and running if you will have a complete engine swap.

K20 swap will take alot more work, parts, time and money. For info on the swap, best place to start looking will be here.

http://www.k20a.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=20

Set yourself a budget of around £5k to get it done properly!

Roughly you will need.

Engine
Box
ECU + Kpro
Conversion engine mounts (Need welding in)
Conversion drive shafts
Conversion manifold
Wiring loom
Custom fuel lines
Cable to hydrolic clutch conversion

Along with lots of other bits n pieces if you wanna go all out!

EE9 CVC · Post by **EE9 CVC** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:40 am

What he said.

It will be a LOT of money to do properly, at least to my standards, theres no way I could K20 mine for £5k.

Theres a lot of stuff Wellz didn't list too, like traction bar, custom exhaust and all the small bits that will be needed to make it work properly.

On top of all that you'll also need a good brake setup and a good suspension setup aswell as making sure that any worn parts are replaced.

If I were to do it I would expect to spend about £8k.

WELLZ · Post by **WELLZ** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:58 am

EE9 CVC wrote:Theres a lot of stuff Wellz didn't list too, like traction bar, custom exhaust and all the small bits that will be needed to make it work properly.

Along with lots of other bits n pieces if you wanna go all out!

You can run a stock front subframe if you want to chop parts out, and a stock exhaust system lol!

johnboy9 · Post by **johnboy9** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:01 am

think im going too opt for the b18 engine, as i can get everything needed, as for fuel lines ect my m8 can make them up for me in work which isnt to bad!

ill be doing most of the work myself so hopefully that will cut the costs down abit as well, im just waitin on a reply to see how much i pickin the the conversion up for so hopefully all goes well and ill have the engine by next week and means i can get to work!

thanks for the advice guys! again and of you guys in N.I wanna gimme a hand pm me

cheers!

sheraz · Post by **sheraz** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:53 am

5k is alot of money you can buy a k20 type r for that much im sure some guy did a k20 ef in ireland it was in white did look really nice if you really wont some power i would go b18c4 or b20

johnboy9 · Post by **johnboy9** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:07 am

well im actuli looking at a b18 out of a jdm dc2, in the middle of tryna sort out a price and colection and stuff, so hoefully have it within the next couple of days or next week or so!

was alos looking to get her resprayed to black, first quote i got was £300 then the next guy i got was £1500!

but ill get it sorted somehow not to worry! just cant wait to get her finished and get her driving lol

EE9 CVC · Post by **EE9 CVC** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:48 pm

johnboy9 wrote:was alos looking to get her resprayed to black, first quote i got was £300 then the next guy i got was £1500!

Go for the £1500 one, The £300 one will be total rubbish.

HONDAB88 · Post by **HONDAB88** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:13 pm

i got a price for a paintjob on my beater for 400 in same colour torino red pearl , i have to strip the car but he'll do the rest , going for it! needs bodywork bad

Post by **Tahir** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:11 pm

You can buy my 40K 98 Spec JDM ITR Engine/Gearbox conversion if you want

Seriously though, il include Engine and Gearbox aswell as ECU remapped by DNR, il even take you out in the car if you came to see me, if you stain my passenger seat, you will pay for new Brides!

Strong engine and smooth as silk gearbox. Ran a 13.5 on road tyres at Elvington and scares the S*!t out of you on back lanes

Here she is at Pod Hammering my mates B20 EF9 off the line due to my superior gearbox (S80 with 4.7 final drive):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLYN9BeV ... re=related

tobiasnugent · Post by **tobiasnugent** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:20 pm

how much is the goign rate on that !? Finance ? :

Post by **Tahir** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:25 pm

Offers via Postcards only.

Finance is available, but goods will be released when funds have cleared

johnboy9 · Post by **johnboy9** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:42 pm

duno which one to go for! the guy hu quoted me £300 is good tho and does a top job!

Tamir you have PM! nice civic btw man!

still waitin on a reply from te guy im getting the engine of hopefully, as it will be more convinent as he is in Northern Ireland same as me!

EE9 CVC · Post by **EE9 CVC** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:08 pm

johnboy9 wrote:duno which one to go for! the guy hu quoted me £300 is good tho and does a top job!

I don't see how he could do a Top job on that budget, he must earn almost nothing, do you have any idea how much work is involved to respray a whole car properly.

The paint could cost nearly £200 on its own

mugenjay · Post by **mugenjay** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:59 am

EE9 CVC wrote:
johnboy9 wrote:duno which one to go for! the guy hu quoted me £300 is good tho and does a top job!
I don't see how he could do a Top job on that budget, he must earn almost nothing, do you have any idea how much work is involved to respray a whole car properly.

The paint could cost nearly £200 on its own

300 is a very low price for a full respray, but in that price is he including door shuts, boot, bonnet an engine bay id assume NOT!! I'm guessing he's qouted you for a full exterior coat!!

an I seriously doubt his paint cost 200

as id be very concerned where he gets his stock from lol Just because a guy charges big money doesnt mean they will do a great job believe me ive met companies that charge from 800-3000 for spray jobs an some all look amazing first off but just dont last as some companies dont use the correct thinners or don't measure the ratios properly