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Why does no body do H22 conversions ?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:43 pm
by tobiasnugent
People always opt for b16 or b18 why is this ?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:47 pm
by COSWORTH
b16 more available,
more efficent on petrol and cheaper to run.
Less on insurance when declared etc
Cheaper tax most of the time etc.

#better range of gearboxes, lots of info on b series conversions, take up less room in the engine bay also, think the h-series blocks stand quite tall!

millions of reasons, why dont u search it on google??

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:52 pm
by NickD
Tax is the same, H22s are cheap. BUT, they are heavy, and not as easy as a B swap.

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:05 pm
by Oldskool J-EDM
The H22 weighs alot more and is also more of a problem with regard to making it fit into the EF chassis.... IIRC it is 'taller' which means it'll require bonnet mods or a very low sump. The same performance/weight ratio can be had (near enough) with the B18 meaning it is better for track. The H22 is fine for the strip.

Re: Why does no body do H22 conversions ?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:11 am
by WELLZ
tobiasnugent wrote:People always opt for b16 or b18 why is this ?
Gone off the K20 idea? :P

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:04 am
by Gizmo
H22's dont clear the firewall in EF's, IIRC, the Inlet can rock and "Smack" the firewall smashing the TPS Sensors

Re: Why does no body do H22 conversions ?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:58 am
by tobiasnugent
WELLZ wrote:
tobiasnugent wrote:People always opt for b16 or b18 why is this ?
Gone off the K20 idea? :P
Not really just keeping the options open. When i have emailed people abou the k20 idea most people dont have a clue were to start lol So i dont know really!

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:35 pm
by Tahir
I dont think they are all that quick in 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

A guy with a H22 EG6 certainly didnt have nothing on a B16 EF9 with CAI and Zorst.

Re: Why does no body do H22 conversions ?

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:08 pm
by WELLZ
tobiasnugent wrote:
WELLZ wrote:
tobiasnugent wrote:People always opt for b16 or b18 why is this ?
Gone off the K20 idea? :P
Not really just keeping the options open. When i have emailed people abou the k20 idea most people dont have a clue were to start lol So i dont know really!
Simple then! Do it yourself dude! 8)

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:58 pm
by EE9 CVC
I've been in an 225HP H22 civic coupe, it was nice and felt good but my Civic was quicker, the VTEC range on H22 felt rather short.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:58 pm
by Dan
Everyone says the h22 is much heavier - but I thought it was the gearbox which added the weight, and that the actual engine was only roughly 10kg more than a B18.

And so with a H2B kit, the difference wasn't much - but the main drawback is the engine height?

Anyone confirm?

Personally I prefer the B series character - the rawness of a B16A1 is golden :D

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:41 pm
by Daz
The main reason for not converting in my eyes is the 8" or so of chassis leg that has to be cut out to clear the bottom pulley etc, you still need to do this even if you use a d/b series gearbox.

Daz

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:43 pm
by Dan
Daz wrote:The main reason for not converting in my eyes is the 8" or so of chassis leg that has to be cut out to clear the bottom pulley etc, you still need to do this even if you use a d/b series gearbox.

Daz
madness :lol:

Re: Why does no body do H22 conversions ?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:42 pm
by tobiasnugent
WELLZ wrote:
tobiasnugent wrote:
WELLZ wrote: Gone off the K20 idea? :P
Not really just keeping the options open. When i have emailed people abou the k20 idea most people dont have a clue were to start lol So i dont know really!
Simple then! Do it yourself dude! 8)
To be honest mate that is fully possible. My dads been a mechanic since he was like 14 and i knows alot of peopel resources. But i need some one whos done one before a build up thread to read. Find out abouts mounts gear linkages etc. And i can get his auto electrician mate to sort out the wiring. But i just cant find enough info on it tbh

Re: Why does no body do H22 conversions ?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:43 pm
by davidT
Not really just keeping the options open. When i have emailed people abou the k20 idea most people dont have a clue were to start lol So i dont know really![/quote]

If you look there is imformation about everything! even step by step guides!! it is alot of work tho tbh, ive been realy thinking about doing this to my vt at the moment the only thing stopping me is thinking if i can justify the price over a b18 swap! the money you would save would give you a nice turbo kit.