Del sol siR AUTO to MANUAL 4G conversion

4th Generation Honda Civic Owners Club Main Forum.
Post Reply
User avatar
Soldier456
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Posts: 1282
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:39 pm
Location: Surrey

Del sol siR AUTO to MANUAL 4G conversion

Post by Soldier456 »

Hey people, this is something that has been going through my mind for a long time, i have spoken to si about this in the past, but just left it in the end. I would love to put my del sol siR engine into a 4G, but i am NO mechanic. Would anyone want to help me out with a conversion?
User avatar
alih369
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Posts: 1175
Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:13 am
Location: Wembley, NW London

Post by alih369 »

I might be able to lend a helping hand if needed..
1988 EC9 D15b Vtec

Image
User avatar
Soldier456
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Posts: 1282
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:39 pm
Location: Surrey

Post by Soldier456 »

That would be great, i just have no clue of what it will cost me. I need to first find a 4G to drop the engine in. I guess i need to be on the look out for a VT with a bottom end gone on it.
m@rk
4GUK Donator
Posts: 3232
Joined: Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:27 pm

.

Post by m@rk »

im no mechanic, but ive done it... just plan loads and READ plenty on the net, all the info is there

why you need a vt with the bottom end gone :? :?
16i TURBO FOR SALE

pm me if intersted

.
User avatar
streaker
Lvl6! Danger to manifold!
Lvl6! Danger to manifold!
Posts: 1930
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:25 am
Location: Tyneside

Post by streaker »

You will need ;

D to B conversion mounts. A d series 4G 1.4 or 1.6 is alot cheaper than a vtec.
Gearbox. Either cable from the VT or hydraulic and an adaptor kit.
Set of pedals :D

Lots more things, harness etc and lots of time and patience.

As far as I know the Del-slow engine and VT engine is the same externally so just the same as a VT conversion. Or buy a VT and just simply swap the engine and wireing to the ECU.

I'll be converting my auto this winter, but yours is easier because you have the complete donar vehicle to hand.

Surely your low milage SiR is worth more than the parts and car to convert :?:
User avatar
Soldier456
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Posts: 1282
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:39 pm
Location: Surrey

Post by Soldier456 »

streaker wrote: Surely your low milage SiR is worth more than the parts and car to convert :?:
Are you saying my del sol is worth something? Well i have tried to sell it in the past, but no interest really for the money i want for it. I would be happy with £1500, but alot happier with a 4G with the heart of my Sol! :lol:
But like i said i am no mechanic, and don't earn alot of money. :oops:
User avatar
Soldier456
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Posts: 1282
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:39 pm
Location: Surrey

Re: .

Post by Soldier456 »

meandmejulie wrote:im no mechanic, but ive done it... just plan loads and READ plenty on the net, all the info is there

why you need a vt with the bottom end gone :? :?
Because i would imagine it would be alot easier to drop into a VT than a GL or DX. And i said a VT with a bottom end knock because it would be alot cheaper to buy!
User avatar
alih369
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Posts: 1175
Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:13 am
Location: Wembley, NW London

Post by alih369 »

Start with a 16v..

Already FI, which saves you alot of hassle over a GL (trust me).

All you need to do to get your engine running in there is:

B-series engine mounts (not too expensive nowadays)
Hydro box conversion kit (and some pedals)
OBD0 - OBD1 conversion harness (and run a few extra wires)

Finding a VT with a bottom end knocking etc wont be easy, and will probably cost the same as a decent 16v.

Theres a nice silver one on ebay atm, check it out..
1988 EC9 D15b Vtec

Image
User avatar
streaker
Lvl6! Danger to manifold!
Lvl6! Danger to manifold!
Posts: 1930
Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:25 am
Location: Tyneside

Post by streaker »

I concur.

An engine is fairly cheap now, not many people will discount a VT because the engine is going :?
GL or DX do not have the electric pump required for Fuel Inj, so as said a 16v base would be easier :D
RediVT

Post by RediVT »

gl/dx/16v won't have a nice front end or side skirts/front rear spoiler like a vtec plus you'l need to upgrade the brakes soon enough.
User avatar
Soldier456
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Posts: 1282
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:39 pm
Location: Surrey

Post by Soldier456 »

RediVT wrote:gl/dx/16v won't have a nice front end or side skirts/front rear spoiler like a vtec plus you'l need to upgrade the brakes soon enough.
Yeah, doesn't really come into it rite now.
User avatar
browndk04
Lvl3 Street Racer
Lvl3 Street Racer
Posts: 352
Joined: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:51 pm
Location: Scottish Borders

Post by browndk04 »

He does have a point on the brakes though :P
User avatar
Soldier456
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Posts: 1282
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:39 pm
Location: Surrey

Post by Soldier456 »

what is a hydro box conversion kit?
User avatar
alih369
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Lvl5! Turbo Charged Posting
Posts: 1175
Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:13 am
Location: Wembley, NW London

Post by alih369 »

Brakes arent a big deal, easily changable..

However a fuel tank, pump, return lines, and wiring loom arent so easy (been there, done that)..

As for the body styling, well it doesnt really come into it right now - BUT for the record, IMO a 16v with a vtec front bumper looks miles better than a complete vtec front end :P its the 'perfect' front end for me..

Go for 16v, and dont even contemplate a GL. As for vtec, if you got spare cash, why not..

As for hydro -> clutch kit, 5th gen onwards civics (and integras) used hydraulic clutches, wheras our gangster 4G's use cable operated clutches. To use a 5G box, u need a conversion kit.

Or.. i forgot.. even easier.. just use a Y1/J1 cable box from a civic/crx VT or Teg XSi
1988 EC9 D15b Vtec

Image
Post Reply