16-16 SEDAN? SALOON?

poops1st · Post by **poops1st** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:38 am

I want to put a vt or a 16-16 into a sedan....

I'm trying to find out if there was ever a 16-16 sedan produced for the english market, also if a vt was produced but i'm sure there wasn't a vt.

Also just to confirm if i want to put the vt or 16-16 into a sedan it's a lot easier if you have a fuel injected model beacuse of petrol tanks and fuel lines but if say i want to put a vt into a 16-16 do i still need to change the loom?

Thanks for any help

Post by **Marc_EE9** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:46 am

only GL sedans were produced for the UK

you would need a JDM Si sedan for fuel injected

they did a 1.6 16v for south africa

you could use the loom from a Shuttle 4wd, but that would be hard to find

Oldskool J-EDM · Post by **Oldskool J-EDM** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:25 pm

TBH unless your boosting the D16A9 then the swap isn't worth your hassle/expense....would be easier to just import one. A D16Z6 or Y8 swap would make more sense if you need to swap.

Oldskool J-EDM · Post by **Oldskool J-EDM** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:35 pm

Good point!

Post by **NickD** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:25 pm

The wiring is wrong for a sedan.

The only car anywhere near close is the 4wd Shuttle.

poops1st · Post by **poops1st** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:42 pm

Ok well thats helped a lot but one thing i'm not quite clear on is... if i want to put the b16 or a d16 into a 1.4 sedan is it going to be harder (because of the wiring loom) than putting the d16/b16 into a 1.4 civic hatch or a 1.5 crx etc...???

one more thing, do i need to change the loom if i want to swap a b16 into a d16 car?

Cheers

Post by **Marc_EE9** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:10 pm

poops1st wrote:Ok well thats helped a lot but one thing i'm not quite clear on is... if i want to put the b16 or a d16 into a 1.4 sedan is it going to be harder (because of the wiring loom) than putting the d16/b16 into a 1.4 civic hatch or a 1.5 crx etc...???

yes, because of that reason - the loom being harder to find

poops1st wrote:one more thing, do i need to change the loom if i want to swap a b16 into a d16 car?

Cheers

ummm ill let someone else answer that, but i think you only need the engine loom..?

Post by **NickD** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:45 pm

poops1st wrote:Ok well thats helped a lot but one thing i'm not quite clear on is... if i want to put the b16 or a d16 into a 1.4 sedan is it going to be harder (because of the wiring loom) than putting the d16/b16 into a 1.4 civic hatch or a 1.5 crx etc...???

Yes

poops1st wrote:one more thing, do i need to change the loom if i want to swap a b16 into a d16 car?

Cheers

No, just a couple of wires.

poops1st · Post by **poops1st** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:03 pm

ok i get it but why is a 1.4 saloon loom so much different to a 1.4 hatch? I don't need a detailed answer i just thought it would be the same.

Post by **Marc_EE9** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:38 pm

poops1st wrote:ok i get it but why is a 1.4 saloon loom so much different to a 1.4 hatch? I don't need a detailed answer i just thought it would be the same.

because of central locking, four electric windows etc..

poops1st · Post by **poops1st** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:47 am

So if i'm not bothered about the rear door and extending the loom to reach the rear lights then i could put a hatch loom in?

Does anyone know if the petrol tanks are interchangable

Post by **NickD** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:02 pm

Having a car with four doors and four side windows where you can't use two of them is dumb IMO. It's ghetto as hell and you'd be wrecking the car. But yes, you could just extend a hatch loom.

Tanks are different, the lines won't fit the floorpan right and may be too short. Beevers panels claim to have a 4 door injection tank on their list, but the hole in the floor where the wiring etc comes out won't be there either

The wiring and tank/loom swapping job is a huge pain in the arse when the chassis is the same (3dr to 3dr or Crx to Crx) I'd imagine it will be ten times worse doing it to a different chassis.

Anyway, it is doable, but won't be easy.